Submitted by Sara on 27 August 2009 - 9:12am
Difficulty Level:
Simple
Model type:
Basic techniques
Materials used:
- Tissue paper
- Foil
- Masking tape
- White glue
- Water and bowl to water down the glue
- Foam roller to apply the glue
- Glass surface - or any other surface that does not absorb water and that is flat
- A roll to apply the tissue nicely
Comments
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 27 August 2009 - 11:28pm Permalink
Cool
I can imagine that this would be a trial and error process as to how much glue is enough, how much water in the glue is enough, how thick the tinfoil/ tissue paper should be, etc.
I'll definatly make some in the future.
Submitted by sean de los santos (not verified) on 29 August 2009 - 3:53am Permalink
foil
i have foil almost as thin as tissue paper is that good
Submitted by Sara on 29 August 2009 - 6:40am Permalink
Thickness vs weight
I'm not sure how thin or thick foil is compared to tissue. It also depends on the tissue paper. For tissue paper, you usually talk about weight, eg. 25gsm. For foil, you usually talk about thickness, eg. 15 micrometre (1 micrometre = 1/1000 mm) is very good for origami paper, and often the thickness of low-grade kitchen foil.
-- Sara
Submitted by Anonymus (not verified) on 4 September 2009 - 5:04pm Permalink
Hi Sara I´m also german. Can
Hi Sara
I´m also german. Can you tell me the name of the store in witch you bought it? Maybe in OBI?
And can you write the name of the glue?
Is tissue paper "Seidenpapier"?
Thanks for answer.
anonymus
PS: You can also write in german, if you want.
Submitted by Sara on 4 September 2009 - 5:40pm Permalink
Details
The glue I bought is http://www.metylan.d...
And, yes, tissue paper is called "Seidenpapier" in German.
-- Sara
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 5 September 2009 - 10:31am Permalink
Thanks. Now I will make my
Thanks. Now I will make my own paper.
Submitted by Christoph (not verified) on 6 September 2009 - 11:19pm Permalink
First Attempt
Sara,
I just tried using your instructions to make tissue foil. I was fortunate enough to find pure methyl cellulose here: http://www.paper-sou... It is a US based company, but I believe they ship internationally. (If you don't mind the shipping cost that is)
In all, I would consider my attempt a success, even though I will hope to improve it. Next time I'll shoot for textured paper! Thank you so much for posting this tutorial! I also plan to try double tissue in the near future. Which to you prefer for folding?
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 24 September 2009 - 4:42pm Permalink
great tip
i've been doing this for a while now and i'm starting to get the hang of it, thanks for the video.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 26 September 2009 - 11:35pm Permalink
good stuff
Great well now I know how to do that. I will so do that.
Submitted by PeryB (not verified) on 10 October 2009 - 12:19pm Permalink
thanks a lot
Hey Sara, first of all let me say, you're an amazing artist. Love your work.
Your instructions were so helpful. All very precise.
I made two sheets and folded "A Miura ken Beauty Rose" by Robert J. Lang (loved the one you made btw), and I must say, the paper took the rose to a whole other level.
Thank you very much, and keep up the good work.
PeryB
Submitted by PeryB (not verified) on 10 October 2009 - 1:47pm Permalink
here's some pictures, if you
here's some pictures, if you want to see them:
http://www.flickr.co...
http://www.flickr.co...
Submitted by Sara on 10 October 2009 - 2:44pm Permalink
Well done
Excellently folded, you did a great job on the rose! I also think that the foil that's shimmering through gives the paper a slightly pearlescent feel, which is a nice touch. :)
-- Sara
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 22 December 2009 - 2:06am Permalink
are you perry bailey or
are you perry bailey or someone else ?
Submitted by Pery (not verified) on 22 December 2009 - 7:33pm Permalink
No, I'm someone else :)
No, I'm someone else :)
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 16 January 2010 - 2:10pm Permalink
question
is tissue foil stiff cause i made some and its stiff
Submitted by Sara on 17 January 2010 - 10:23am Permalink
Stiffness
Yes, the foil makes the paper very stiff (yet it stays light).
-- Sara
Submitted by plesner (not verified) on 17 February 2010 - 9:47pm Permalink
Great video
I'm very much a novice when it comes to origami, but I've found several videos here, which I really enjoyed. So far this one was the most helpful, though. Keep up the good work.
Thanks a lot,
plesner,
Copenhagen, Denmark
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 15 April 2010 - 2:04pm Permalink
hi sara this can be used for
hi sara this can be used for the dragon designed by satoshi kamiya isn't it? so why do you not post a video on how to make the dragon please?? i really want to have a go at making it...please get back
Submitted by Sara on 15 April 2010 - 4:14pm Permalink
No video, sorry
Actually, I think double tissue is more suited for the ancient dragon. However, (as I have explained too many times by now) I will not be posting an instructional video on the ancient dragon by Satoshi Kamiya. The quickest explanation is that I wasn't able to secure permission to demonstrate any of Satoshi Kamiya's models, and I respect his wish. That's not the full explanation, but I'm somewhat growing tired of the question to make a video on a model that you need extremely high folding skills for, and which takes hours to fold - let alone explain.
Sorry to disappoint you,
-- Sara
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 10 May 2010 - 1:37pm Permalink
glue
can i use elmer's glue?
Submitted by Sara on 10 May 2010 - 3:18pm Permalink
Yes, but diluted
Yes, you can. You should probably dilute it, though. Just add a bit of water and stir. If there are small lumps, don't worry. Once you apply the glue these should disappear. (I'm usually too lazy to stir until no more lumps are in there.)
-- Sara
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 10 May 2010 - 3:28pm Permalink
thanks
thanks for the reply ill try it out now
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 7 July 2010 - 12:41am Permalink
Questions
Hi Sara! I just wanted to know where to get tissue paper. It has to be at a shop close to Edison, New Jersey.
(P.S. can you make a video on the origami ring tailed lemur?)
Thanks!
Please reply!
Submitted by Sara on 7 July 2010 - 7:07am Permalink
Tissue paper
Hi there,
I fear I cannot help you with local shops, I live in a totally different part of the world. You can try buying tissue paper online, though, eg http://www.pacon.com...
As to the ring-tailed lemur: I decided to show one model from the book Origami Essence, and that's the vixen. I have no plans right now to show another model from that book. It's still quite new, and I want to promote the sale of this book, not compete with it. Hope you understand.
-- Sara
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 8 July 2010 - 12:37am Permalink
Thanks
Thanks anyway. by the way, your videos are awelsome!
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 9 July 2010 - 11:28pm Permalink
glue
Can i use stick glue to replace the glue that you used?
Where do you get those cutting squares?
By the way, so after a couple months, after "origami essence" stops selling, then can you make a video on the ring-tailed lemur? I already have tissue foil to use, but i don't know how long they're going to last for....
Please reply!
Thanks!
Submitted by Sara on 12 July 2010 - 11:03pm Permalink
Some answers
1. Yes, you can try using a glue stick. However, I think it will be hard to apply a thin, smooth surface of glue with that on the whole surface of the foil.
2. The large one I had cut in a hardware store. The others are cardboard - either cut by myself, or they were a backing for origami paper packs.
3. Not sure. I'd have to talk to Roman about that.
-- Sara
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 18 July 2010 - 8:51pm Permalink
Foil size
if i only have small foil as in width, can i layer the foil up so i can make bigger sheets
Submitted by Sara on 19 July 2010 - 5:04am Permalink
Sure
I haven't tried myself, but I think that should work. I personally would try to have no overlap, but rather go for a possible small gap. But, as I said, I haven't tried myself.
-- Sara
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 19 July 2010 - 6:58pm Permalink
ok cheers
Well thanks, Ill try it and let you know, just in case anyone else asks
Submitted by Noah (not verified) on 21 July 2010 - 7:55pm Permalink
Scrapbook Glue
Would Scrapbook Glue work for this? The label says "ForAll Paper Projects". It's white, which I've been told is what you want, and it should almost surely mix with water.
Submitted by Sara on 21 July 2010 - 10:27pm Permalink
Just try it out
My general advice for all of these kind of queries is: give it a try.
I cannot give you a confident answer, but it sounds like it's definitely worth a try.
-- Sara
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 17 August 2010 - 12:15am Permalink
Does tissue foil paper have
Does tissue foil paper have to be in this order: tissue-> foil-> tissue?
Can it be like tissue->foil?
Submitted by Sara on 17 August 2010 - 10:13am Permalink
Tissue foil vs "duo" tissue foil
Sure, you can only add tissue on one side. It's a different effect, and is suitable if one side is not visible, or if you want a shiny surface.
-- Sara
Submitted by origami and tru... (not verified) on 15 September 2010 - 1:49am Permalink
question
thats just normal alluminum foil right?
ps, is elmer fud glue german? it kinda sounds german
Submitted by Sara on 15 September 2010 - 8:35am Permalink
Aluminium foil
Yes, I used normal aluminium foil. Not sure what the effect is if you use texturized foil.
As to Elmer's glue - I've never seen it sold in Germany. It's definitely not one of the "standard" glues around here.
-- Sara
Submitted by dave (not verified) on 15 September 2010 - 9:54pm Permalink
thanks
thanks for the reply. i also have another queston if you could answer it. would you say that this paper is fairly good for folding complex models?
Submitted by Sara on 16 September 2010 - 6:32am Permalink
Double Tissue
I'd go with double tissue for complex folding. I do know some people love tisse foil and fold just about anything from it. However, I feel that double tissue is the nicer paper, and that it delivers more beautiful renditions of models. Also, tissue foil is a bit of cheating, as foil really isn't paper anymore. ;)
-- Sara
Submitted by ni16 (not verified) on 16 September 2010 - 5:19pm Permalink
adhesive?
Can I use the white adhesive glue maybe mixed with a little bit of water to make it more liquid?
Because the last time i used adhesive the tissue tore in some places and the other side looked greenish silver color. I used green and orange colors.
One more thing . My tissue paper seems too light and thin can i use two tissue papers for sticking one SIDE? ( just to give thickness )
Submitted by ni16 (not verified) on 16 September 2010 - 5:42pm Permalink
what tool
Is it necessary to use only that roller or any other tool to apply the glue. I only have that big roller not the small one. Can i use a brush instead?
Submitted by Sara on 16 September 2010 - 8:42pm Permalink
Be careful if you want to use a brush
Of course you can use a wider roller. As to a brush, you'll have to check whether you can apply the glue as evenly with it, and whether it will create creases in the foil. I have not tried this.
-- Sara
Submitted by Sara on 16 September 2010 - 7:38pm Permalink
Yes, thinning down is ok
I mix my white glue with water to thin it down. As long as the glue is water-dissolvable there should be no problem with it at all. Most white glues should be water-dissolvable, by the way.
As to adding two layers of tissue on each side - I don't know. Isn't thinner better? :)
-- Sara
Submitted by Adr (not verified) on 22 October 2010 - 6:51pm Permalink
Thanks!
I´ve been folding origami for a while, always on bond paper, but when I tried to do more complex models it didnt work. I had been wondering How do they do it?
You just opened a whole new dimension for me, now I can have a go at new figures, I cant wait to get the materials and begin doing it, thanks a lot!
Love and kisses : )
Submitted by Sara on 25 October 2010 - 6:58am Permalink
Also try double tissue
I'd recommend you try out double tissue, too. I do prefer double tissue, I find it easier to work with for most models. The one thing I do prefer about tissue foil is that you can easily make duo paper for those color-change models.
-- Sara
Submitted by Origami Guy (not verified) on 7 November 2010 - 1:17am Permalink
would it work if...
i instead of using two tissue papers i used tissue-foil-colored copy paper i only got one color of tissue :P.
Submitted by Sara on 7 November 2010 - 8:44am Permalink
Copy paper is probably too heavy
You can make tissue foil that has tissue on only one side, and (uncovered) foil on the other. If you added copy paper, the finished paper would be quite thick, and hard to work with for most models.
-- Sara
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 15 November 2010 - 11:50pm Permalink
too cheap
sara do u think i can just use foil itself ?
Submitted by Sara on 16 November 2010 - 3:55am Permalink
You can try, if you like
It's very hard to work with pure foil, but you can try.
-- Sara
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 28 November 2010 - 11:18pm Permalink
would wood glue work?
would wood glue work?
Submitted by Sara on 29 November 2010 - 7:29am Permalink
Give it a try
There are many different kinds of wood glue, and I'm not sure whether all work. Some definitely do, so you should simply try it out and find out. :)
-- Sara
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 18 December 2010 - 12:07pm Permalink
excellent work, i was
excellent work, i was wondering if you could use photo mount or spray glue instead of white glue. also do you know if this white glue is called pva glue? because i am unfamiliar with the term of just white glue. thank you again for such inspiring work
Submitted by Sara on 18 December 2010 - 12:20pm Permalink
Spray glue and PVA glue
I'm not sure what photo mount is. :) You can use spray glue, but I find it doesn't give you as nice paper. I've found with spray glue the paper is a bit thicker and harder to fold with. I guess it depends a bit on the spray glue you use. I know that some people make tissue foil with spray glue, so you can definitely try it out. Perhaps you like the results better, or it is easier for you to achieve. But please work in an open place. Unlike white glue, spray glue is usually toxic.
As to PVA, yes, that's white glue.
-- Sara
Submitted by Bob (not verified) on 26 January 2011 - 11:33pm Permalink
I don't think even the best
I don't think even the best wood glue would help much with this.
Submitted by Someone (not verified) on 8 May 2011 - 7:18pm Permalink
Glue
Do you know what glue I can get in Canada that would work for this
Submitted by Sara on 9 May 2011 - 7:58am Permalink
Sorry...
Sorry, I don't know which glues are available in Canada. I hear Elmer's Glue, which is at least available in the US, works well.
-- Sara
Submitted by Someone (not verified) on 9 May 2011 - 3:46pm Permalink
Glue 2
Elmers glue is normal white craft glue.
That would work well?
Submitted by Sara on 10 May 2011 - 7:45am Permalink
Add water soluble to that
As far as I know any white craft glue that's water soluble should work well. But then again, I think white craft glues usually are water soluble.
-- Sara
Submitted by Baltoholic (not verified) on 15 May 2011 - 8:38pm Permalink
Rose
At 14:47, that's the rose from Tanteidan, right? Are the diagrams published anywhere else?
Submitted by Sara on 16 May 2011 - 10:16pm Permalink
Not that I'd know of
I don't know a different source, apart from Tanteidan 12, which you already mentioned.
Sorry,
-- Sara
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 19 June 2011 - 7:19pm Permalink
Glue
which local store that you can find everywhere sells the white glue that you were talking about. is there a special company that makes this type of glue?
Submitted by Sara on 2 July 2011 - 5:31pm Permalink
PVA Glue
Simply use some sort of PVA glue. Basically, you want a white glue that's water-solvable and that preferably dries transparently.
Brands will vary from country to country, but you should be able to get this kind of glue pretty much everywhere.
-- Sara
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 8 January 2012 - 11:51am Permalink
Tissue paper
Everywhere i go to find tissue paper, its always prefolded very many times. Do you a website, or an international store for tissue paper, that isnt prefolded?
Submitted by Elias (not verified) on 29 November 2012 - 4:37pm Permalink
glue
Wait what are the 2 ingredients that you need to have in the glue for it to work? Sorry your accent is a little difficult for me to understand :D please reply soon
Submitted by KDianne Stephens (not verified) on 3 December 2012 - 1:26am Permalink
Glue
Sara's method make a wonderful foil tissue with what I call "substance". I enjoy the leathery textured effect one can also achieve with the wet glue method. Should you like a very delicate foil tissue you may want to try using Glue Sticks. Being very "shear" the glue stick does not add any thickness or warp whatsoever. It is quite "forgiving" in placing the sheets together. I also use the glue stick to apply a tissue layer to translucent waxed paper, one of my favorites in which to work.
Submitted by Sara on 3 December 2012 - 8:34am Permalink
It depends
I thin down the white glue considerably. Like this I actually achieve very thin tissue foil - much thinner than with glue sticks or spray glue.
But if you don't add as much water or eve use the glue pure, then the paper will be thicker. This may be what you're going for, of course.
Best wishes,
-- Sara
Submitted by Felipe (not verified) on 2 April 2013 - 3:00pm Permalink
Hard to crease
When I did my tissue foil did it with tissue paper only by one side, but when I did a model, it was hard to reverse a pre-folded crease, I had to discrease it to crease again to the other side, which is something that happens a lot with advanced models....
Could someone help me??
Submitted by Thundertori (not verified) on 3 April 2013 - 12:01am Permalink
Alternatives to Foil?
Thank you so very much for the videos. I hope you can view the photos. I made duo-tone tissue foil paper:
https://twitter.com/...
And made a kusudama from it here:
https://twitter.com/...
I can't get a hold of non-bleed tissue paper, so that is why I made tissue foil to make duo-tone paper.
I wanted to ask, have you tried any other material to use in between tissue paper besides foil?
Thank you for your help and thank you again for the video's!
-Thundertori
Submitted by Artiste (not verified) on 13 October 2013 - 11:28pm Permalink
Glue
Please, I wanted to know your opinion on this glue: Elmer's Glue-All to make Tissue Foil. I put link to the glue, so that you can exactly know what I'm talking about. Thank you in advance for your help.
If you can recommend me other glues, I would be grateful. I also live in Montreal (Canada).
Thank you for your help Madam Sara.
Lien :
http://www.bbschools...
Submitted by Sara on 14 October 2013 - 6:28am Permalink
Suitable
I know several people use Elmer's Glue. I haven't tried it myself, but it is a white glue, and it should work well for this technique.
Hope this helps,
-- Sara
Submitted by Artiste (not verified) on 14 October 2013 - 6:48pm Permalink
Thanks
Thank you very much for your reply and thank you especially for your help.
Have a nice day.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 24 March 2014 - 11:46am Permalink
Tissue Paper
where can i buy that tissue paper if i dont have any credit card or debit card
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